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Student Pilot has Near Miss George saved my life.

by Friendly Skies Film

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Published 30 Jul 2016

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@GadgetAddict8 years ago It seems like things would have been easier if the other pilot just turned on his radio and said something. 2933
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@philconey114 years ago My personal advice for this situation would have been just to side step the runway to get that aircraft in sight and then NOSE DIVE DIRECTLY INTO THEM TO ASSERT YOUR DOMINANCE 876
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@tomfire19725 years ago "Silver, meet me at the parking lot. We need to talk. Bring your radio. Need to show you something." 374
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@mike1983835 years ago that is just scary having a rogue plane not using radios. 706
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@cousineddie74448 years ago Should've gone into a 4G inverted dive, gave him the bird. 1198
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@srvafool8 years ago The only thing you did "wrong" was not chewing the Navion pilot's ass out for making a low pass with at least 2 other aircraft in the pattern without making a single call. He is an idiot. I would have made sure he knew that he put his and your life in danger by his stupidity. Good job on your part though. We used to have a guy occasionally do touch and goes at our field without a radio and he would land downwind with students in the pattern. My old Navy trained instructor invited him to join him on the tarmac for a little lesson in proper fisticuff techniques, but he intelligently declined. We never saw him again at our uncontrolled field. ... 113
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@ScottsSynthStuff4 years ago In my experience, situations like this are often caused by one pilot being on the wrong frequency. He is broadcasting on a frequency where nobody is listening. He hears no other airplanes, so assumes he is alone in the pattern. Meanwhile, the other aircraft, on the correct CTAF, (hopefully) see the airplane, but don't hear him. It happens more often than you would think. ... 69
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@ProfessionalPilot4 years ago Just because the FAA allows it doesn't mean it's safe. I hate people who refuse to use radios. 109
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@korrdavl8 years ago Very frustrating video.
Because some champion was dicking around, just fucking around, and in my view was putting everyone's lives in danger. 96
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@FriendlySkiesFilm8 years ago Just fought with my computer for the last two hours to get this one uploaded... Turns out that trying to play Cities Skylines while After Effects renders a video is a pretty good way to brick your computer. 139
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@tbag74096 years ago Near miss is at 121
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@channingburton74767 years ago Had a dear friend, his 5 year old boy and fellow pilot killed in Houston in 1994 along with two brothers in the aircraft that over took them while they were on final at Pearland Regional (KLVJ). Giving out positions reports for downwind, base and final a Bonanza A36 gave warning that a Mini Cab Hawk Experimental was over taking them High and on their 6. The aircraft over taking my friend was flying a low wing aircraft and my friend was piloting a C-172. The C-172 was on a 1.25 mile final when the Mini Cab Hawk hit them on the upper wing causing both aircraft to become aerodynamically connected. Both aircraft rolled to the right nose down and contacted the ground vertically while remaining together. 5 dead because one guy didn't follow a proper entry or make any radio calls giving his position / intentions. The worst part is 3 wives lost their husbands that Sunday afternoon and one wife lost a husband and her 5 year old son.Sometime is best to exit the pattern when you have a DUMB ASS flying near you. Great video and a great safety discussion. ... 658
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@smartereveryday8 years ago Good video. I'm glad the other guy was in the pattern. I would have done the same things you did. 1177
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@jacobbarnett40748 years ago don't like the idea of people being in the pattern and not using comm 137
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@robertmurdoch16 years ago I think it was excellent that you decided on a go-around right off the bat, and as a student. 10
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@miteco16 years ago In my humble opinion it appears that the Navion pilot, while within regs, is still reckless, bold, overconfident, and dangerous quite simply because he is flying at a busy airport with no radio, plus he is all over the place flying his own pattern practicing who knows what?
The tip off on this is entire situation is not being able to see the Navion but knowing its there.
Dragging the scenario out by continuing to look for the plane for such a protracted time period can be equally dangerous and reckless.
When I am in these situations, I clear the pattern, gain altitude, spot the traffic, and return when safer to land so I can live to fly another day.
Dont share airspace with reckless/idiotic/clueless/self entitled pilots. Anything else is simply a repeated pulling of the trigger in a game of russian roulette. If you stay in the pattern and keep pulling the trigger over and over again, the gun will sooner or later go off. ... 218
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@Joost.8 years ago Wow, that George guy deserves a free beer :) 65
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@BlueSideUp776 years ago You made a couple decisions, not just one, which saved your life. Good calls and thanks for the video. It'll be something to watch out for! 4
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@planecentric5426last year Hats off to you man that was some good airmanship on your part, George and the other guys 4
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@itsDKRG8 years ago I actually got pretty mad at the other "RED" aircraft. Not using COMMS when you have it on board while 2 other aircraft flying in the same pattern with you??? NOT ACCEPTABLE and TOTALLY RIDICULOUS! I`m no one to judge but I`d probably not climb in case George was wrong and you were the plane flying beneath the other. (But I don`t know how sure he was about you being the top one so.. you can disregard this part)
And If I were you and George was not there and that plane popped out suddenly from below when I`m coming in for the landing, I`d absolutely report him. (you have the both video and audio proof) I hope you had a little talk with him on the ground. I can`t stand when people are so reckless while flying... Thank god there was no accident. Great piloting, Great ADM, Fly safe Nick! ... 45
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@BarryBulsara5768 years ago In the same situation I would have likely performed a hammerhead stall before manoeuvring into a barrel roll whilst pulling off a perfect cuban eight. 715
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@brenttaylordotus4 years ago I haven't flown in years and I still can't believe you can fly without radios. Seems insane in today's crowded and unpredictable air spaces. 16
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@paulcoote30944 years ago You did exactly what a good pilot does. Stays calm, focused and alert. Constant scanning of environment and receptive to comms and third party advice. Well done. 1
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@crapper18 years ago guy not using comms is a total tool and really should get a good refresher training on why airplanes have radios 63
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@GTOAviator8 years ago I'm an MEI/CFI/II with over 1,000 hours, mostly dual given. You did exactly what you should have done. A lot of low time pilots would try to force the landing in that situation thinking, "this is what I have to do because I'm on final". You communicated well and demonstrated good judgement on the go around/early crosswind turn. Unfortunately, the limp dicks in the pattern off comms at uncontrolled airports cause more close calls/near misses than you can possibly imagine. Stay frosty. ... 36
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@KevinGriffinride7 years ago Friendly Skies Film, Can I use this video in my CFI lesson? This is a perfect set up for my students who need real world context to a scenario biased training on traffic patterns and communications. 26
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@MrBugflyer8 years ago Great Video. Upon executing your first go around, had you broken off to the right (like I was trained to do), then ran parallel to the runway, you likely would have then seen the other aircraft making the low approach. 7
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@lloyd10000018 years ago I used to sport skydive when I was much younger. I once remember leaving an aircraft (Cessna 172) over the drop zone (farmland field with a sand pit.) and suddenly realizing that there was another aircraft flying below and behind the jump plane which no one had known about.
In my case, I sweep my arms back and went into a head-first delta which accelerated my speed, and I got out of the other aircraft's way. Had I pulled my parachute instead, I might have had a close look at the other aircraft's paint job. ... 126
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@EagleLogic8 years ago You got a good friend looking out for you. It's great to see the aviation community growing so much on YouTube by the way. 4
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@frankiemae13028 years ago I like the "getting out of there move"
I was thinking turn final, but when you did that, I learned. :) 8
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@coreyjordan27455 years ago Bro, I just watched your video. You did a great job in communicated with tower about where other aircraft was. Keep doing what you are doing. At this point in your learning about flying. No one is perfect and it takes practice in become good at flying. Great job bro. :) ... 1
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@hook868 years ago Good video and educational. I had a similar near miss when traffic holding short at a CTAF field decided to line up as I was on VERY short final. Was pretty darn scary and had me reeling for a bit on that go-around 9
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@flatbedtruckingsamrides.93558 years ago When you went around, be good to move to the right and parallel the runway to see what's going on. Looking for traffic out of your peripheral vision will work better than looking directly at the target area.
Happy flying, been at it 33yrs. Sometimes they come outta nowhere. ... 9
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@ProfessionalPilot5 years ago Why would anyone not be on comms with multiple a/c using the same runway?! 221
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@jasonklein78217 years ago By the way, great flying, you handled that one well, keeping your cool, and especially no knee jerk reaction. Great flying Bro! 1
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@Zbip578 years ago It's quite scary when you're told there is traffic near you, but you can't see them. Back sometime around 1975, I was a passenger on an Air Canada flight returning to YYZ Toronto from Europe. A couple of kids came down the aisle all excited about having been allowed to visit the cockpit. I didn't know that was even possible, but it doesn't hurt to ask. So I flagged down a stewardess and asked if I could see the cockpit too. She went off to check then came back to escort me to the flight deck. Too cool. The flight crew weren't doing anything, the plane flies itself. So we just chatted and I told them all about how I'm currently taking flying lessons on a Piper Cherokee. Super nice guys, they said why don't I come up later and they'll let me sit in for the landing! Awesome! So, hours later the stewardess came to fetch me and I got to sit on a jump seat on the left behind the pilot. They even gave me a headset so I could listen in on the radio chatter. Way cool. First strange thing, there's water dripping on my head. Um, is this supposed to happen? They said ya condensation freezes on the cabin ceiling, then drips down when they descend into warmer air. Um, but it's dripping through the switch panel above my head. No worries, it's normal. Right, sure, ok, I guess. Other than that the whole airport approach procedure seems familiar and it's pretty much the same as I'm used to, but on a much bigger scale. I'm used to just a ten-mile control zone around our club field, but here they're reporting in already 25 miles out. We're told to join on the downwind, we're number three behind a ??? and one other ??? ahead of us. Pilot and copilot (and me) see only one plane ahead of us. Oh well... Continuing on, we radio the tower as we're turning left onto the base leg. Tower responds we're still #3 behind ??? on short final and behind ??? who is just turning left onto base leg now. Holy #$%!, but WE're just in the process of turning onto base leg! Where the heck is that other plane?? Can anyone see him? We must be right on top of them. Frantic scanning out all the windows. Tower, that'us just turning left onto base leg and we can't see the other plane. The tower comes back, "Oh, my apologies, you're now #2 following ??? just touching down now, and flight ???, correction you'll be #3 following the Air Canada flight now on base leg. Yikes! This is Toronto International airport and the tower was confused as to what order we're arriving in the circuit. That certainly wasn't confidence inspiring. After that the landing itself was uneventful, other than it's really weird when you can't even see the runway with the nose pointing up so high and we're still a good 50 feet up in the air when somewhere way, way, far behind us the wheels touch down. That's a bizzare feeling. ... 12
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@guzziguy8 years ago No comms and non-standard patterns? WTF? 38
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@RainmanRaysRepairs5 years ago The other pilot should have been monitoring his radio. It didn't appear he was aware of traffic. My opinion, I'm not a pilot yet. 7
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@captainyossarian3882 years ago I like that you have your head 'on a swivel', always on the lookout in what can quickly become a dangerous situation. 1
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@chrismd008 years ago The one idiot isn't following the pattern procedure. He put you all at risk 44
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@FriendlySkiesFilm8 years ago Thumbs up for my eye in the sky, George Allen, and my eyes on the ground, AeroVenture Institute! 209
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@robertdavis67087 years ago If in doubt, get on out. Simple rules to live by. Live to fly another day. Cheers. 12
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@Cydonius14 years ago Get on his tail and transmit "Fox One, Fox One", maybe that would get his attention enough to turn on the radio 29
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@ChuckBeefOG8 years ago Go inverted. Ask Denzel, works every time. 91
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@AllenMichaelsVlogs8 years ago they recommend scanning instead of rapid head movements when looking for traffic 6
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@SteenPedersen7 years ago Interesting video. I hate when I don't have the other aircrafts in sight. BTW how did you make the graphic with the small aircrafts?
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@ROCKSTARCRANE8 years ago I used to fly in Southern California; in and out of SMO and VNY and through the LAX 'corridor'. I had several 'near misses', one of which was with a biplane doing snap-rolls over Malibu beach. We came so close I could see his face. Another was with an Aero Commander departing Hughes field... ... 2
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@tjp14514 years ago ‘It’s a near hit. An accident is a near miss.” - George Carlin 10
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@robharper66627 years ago Uncustomary/inconsistent pattern work without use of comms is inexcusable. It caused 3 pilots grief and stress while in the pattern when low speed issues are at highest risk. PIC here spends all his energy looking for traffic instead of flying the plane. It is to his credit that he was skilled to the degree of flying the aircraft on instinct while in full collision avoidance mode. Never misses a beat. Great student flying. Me: I would have flown 4 miles out of the pattern to re-enter on final because I fear what I cannot see. Or I would have flown to the next airport, landed and called somebody to fly me and airplane back. ... 10
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@MollydogRadar5 years ago You did a great job being vigilant with tower communication and staying calm. Flying is like riding a motorcycle. You have to constantly watch out for the other person. The other pilot probably forgot to turn his radio on the correct frequency. It happens. ... 1
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@fybob134 years ago You mentioned building your own circut for audio, can you provide any info on that? The audio on my gopro quit working and I have several gopro clones that don't have audio at all, but take great video. I like the window box in the video, that's a great tool, also, what editing system did you use.
Thanks,
Bob ...
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@patrickmannion49528 years ago Question: The red airplane appears to not be following any particular pattern or technique as far as how they approach the runway. The two of you always turned left to head downwind, and I see the red guy turned right. And when you were starting your first downwind (before the near-miss), you were following a very predictable behavior. Red dude just made and abrupt turn and cut in ahead of you. Am I correct? ... 16
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@niklaspilot5 years ago This is a good example why uncontrolled airfields really should be *uncontrolled*!
Not as it is here in Germany where you still have a so called “Flugleiter” that still somewhat moderates the communications on the frequency. I have had multiple occasions where one of these guys told me to “obey radio comms discipline” when I was actually just trying to tell other aircraft around where exactly I am and to find out where they are in order to prevent a situation like in the video. ... 4
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@TBoNdBRFOX77 years ago Thanks for sharing this REALLY important video. I'm currently flying at a "messy" field. Straight in approaches; right hand traffic at a left one...
You guys were flying the right pattern, assertive communication and the near miss happened on those conditions. Gonna show them the risks of doing a fly like pattern. Safe flights! ...
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@nathanhyde29468 years ago Duuuude!! That was awesome 👏!!!! GG man I could just feel your adrenaline and anxiety trying to find the runway. Just GG, you handle it like, a Boss!
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@AyeYerMa8 years ago In the words of the late great George Carlin, They say that if 2 planes almost collide, it's a near miss. Bullshit, my friend. It's a near hit! A collision is a near miss.
[WHAM! CRUNCH!]
"Look, they nearly missed!"
"Yes, but not quite.” ... 132
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@pilsnrimgaard25078 years ago I flew Army helicopters for 15 years and one thing I would say is that flying at sunset or at sunrise is extremely dangerous on clear condition VFR with haze. Horizon definition contrast issues are a big problem. Not to mention having to scan away from the sun as to not burn in the night vision while simultaneously keeping a full sweep on scanning for hazards. It's always a good idea if you know you are going to be in these two time frames to have a co-pilot if at all possible to handle radios and scanning while you fly to your 360. I notice you were staying in one position too long and not keep a steady sweep of your airspace. things at 130 knots (not to mention opposing traffic at 130 knots in the opposite i.e. 260 knots differential) can move quite quickly and to take too much time in zone of scan can be hazardous. Keep it safe and fun! ... 48
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@DethWshBkr8 years ago I had a situation somewhat similar.I had my instructor with me, and we were on a long approach on what I think was runway 8 at KCXY. This is controlled airspace, and if I recall, we received clearance to land. ( I can't say I recall if we had received cleared to land yet or if that was still coming)My instructor happened to look at our 4 o clock low, and another aircraft was converging on us. We radio'ed tower, and let them know we had an aircraft paralleling us roughly 300 feet below. We were advised to level off and go around.
Even controlled airspace - situational awareness is critical. ... 1
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@totemtv51165 years ago that dude looked like he was trying to crash into you multiple times. wtf 34
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@Lobotommy1105 years ago I always thought time warp was unrealistic in FlightSim X I didn't know it's a real thing in Aviation. 6
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@jesusdeblascasas31636 years ago Awesome style of videos. The graph on the corner is great. Thanks a lot. Watching from Madrid, Spain.
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@antonio826377 years ago I had a real near miss once too..I was on a VOR DME app 7 NM from the rnw when a student pilot cross right in front of me. ( C airspace)...
counted every rivets and screws from his airplane. 2
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@Clipper10946 years ago This is my biggest fear about learning to fly and general aviation in general. Why is it still not mandatory for smaller planes to have TCAS and for the pilots to be monitoring the radios at all times? 58
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@richardbradley15985 years ago I think I might have left the circuit for a while and rejoined once I knew where everyone was. 3
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@rkhyden19504 years ago Yep, turn 90° to the right.
Fly in a straight line for 5 minets.
Keep in radio contact constantly.
Do a 180 and try it again.
Doesn't make any difference what direction you turn in the initial step, just get out there for a few minutes. ...
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@robertdigiacomo48498 years ago I find your videos remarkably helpful. As a Student for PP I review and
note many things that I associate as I take my lessons. Thank you, and
great job! B.D. Melbourne Florida
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@CC-hr3lg8 years ago I would have left the pattern and held at 3000 feet until I had a better idea of the situation 21
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@n124lp6 years ago Thanks for sharing. Very scary.
My big takeaway is, that even if we are doing things the way that we think is right, we have to do our best to take into account that the other guy might not be.
That Navion was flying nothing close to a standard traffic pattern. His entry crossing the departure threshold from the other side of the runway and then turning a wide downwind leg was non-standard, after the first approach, making a right crosswind turn was non-standard, and his long final was also non-standard.
Yes, he also should have been using the radio, but if he had flown a standard left traffic pattern with a standard entry midfield downwind from a 45 degree angle, there should have been no conflict.
Another point related to watching out for the other guy: I think it's a good idea, especially at non-towered airports, to fly your upwind leg offset from the runway on the opposite side from the downwind when going around. With you flying over the runway, if he had gone around as well, he mighr have climbed into the bottom of your aircraft, with neither of you ever having seen the other one. ... 3
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@austinbonnermedia4 years ago Haven’t started the video fully but just wanted to give you props on the intro, really cool and eye catching!
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@daveshaw93444 years ago When you were both on the ground did the other guy offer any explanation as to his lack of communication? 1
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@billquillin19526 years ago The time this happened to me, I broke out of the pattern. Five minutes out, I turned around and tried again. Air Tag doesn't interest me! 23
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@AdrianTechs4 years ago Is there no repercussions for the rogue plane? If not, why? He could have killed this guy and it would have been his fault. 16
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@shable14365 years ago Now your seasoned, how many times have you done this with multi leveled planes while in holding pattern or circuit?
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@bernardanderson75696 years ago When I was a student pilot that got sighed off to solo for the first time I got vert nervous when other aircraft in the pattern were calling out different positions and I was calling out my position also and you as a Student pilot did the right thing by the go - around and staying ahead of your aircraft with your head and eyes on a swivel for traffic and also at a safe altitude ...
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@amaliacollins56915 years ago Out of curiosity, was this in southern Mass? 3
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@grayghostwwiiace59788 years ago the dude in the green was cool to take control of the situation and act as kind of a in air traffic controller 4
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@Firefox1313 years ago You done good! That’s why instructors always tell to talk in pilot controlled air space, and keep your head on a swivel. Good Job!
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@ItsKibet8 years ago I was in this very situation on my first solo.An experimental from a different airport came into my home base and was not using comms.After taking off and turning left crosswind he was right there off to my left.Thank God my instructor saw everything from the ground. ...
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@esk8spirit3628 years ago Dude when you don't know what to do when there is anything wrong with your thinking or the airplane, you just jump out and open a parachute and while still in the air you call Pegasus to spawn you a new one... 4
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@jbw99998 years ago There should be a regulation requiring CTAF communication at uncontrolled airports. 6
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@martyh88306 years ago Had a near miss myself back in '81 at KVNY in the Los Angeles area when a plane entered the pattern in the opposite direction. My instructor just about had a heart attack... That was a close one 1
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@germanboy314956 years ago Great video, I like the graphics as well at the top right. Gives good situational awareness from behind the computer screen. All in all, I personally believe flying without comms is not a great idea at all. I enjoyed the video and fly safe! ...
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@AidansAviationAdventures8 years ago Nice job on the go -around , and also using the dead side of the runway to stay out of danger . Bad move by the other guy for not using comms , there should be a mandatory comms rule for non towered fields . even a handheld . good video , safe skies . ... 20
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@whisperingeagle7 years ago Great job i like how you didnt question and elected to clear the aera quickly.
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@chuckkirkpatrick67127 years ago Years ago, I had a near-miss over Mailbu coastline....almost a head-on with a barrel-rolling biplane. The other aircraft's rolling and subsequent continuous course change made my evasive maneuver decision difficult. We passed close enough for me to see the other pilot's face. My second near-miss was with an Aero Commander departing Hughes airport. I filed on the first one, but not the second. Funny....I didn't start shaking until after I landed and tied down. ...
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@Tenere7mufd19245 years ago About a week before my private check ride in helicopter I had to switch flight instructors. She was terrible. We had a helicopter climbing out under us and she had controls. He was calling his position and I looked at her and said, “he is 100’ below us and climbing” at witch she replied “huh” I grabbed controls turned crosswind while warning the other helicopter. She took controls back, flew us strait to our home airfield and said she couldn’t fly with me! Lol, I told the owner of the school what happened and it wasn’t the first time she almost had a mid air collision. What’s worse is she wouldn’t admit any wrong doing even after seeing the helicopter clime out next to us. ... 17
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@morganghetti8 years ago Controller here with no piloting experience. Why in the world would someone be operating in this pattern without making calls? 3
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@samfosdick98746 years ago My instructor said that any landing you walk away from is a good one. Funny thing was, my instructor was wheelchair bound....due to being shot down in Nam. Best pilot I've ever flown with. He had special hand controls for the rudder/breaks. He also said when I was new that he could crawl faster than I taxied. Good instructors are hard to find. GREAT instructors are priceless. Keep up with your wings kid! ...
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@kiditsmaug8 years ago WOW!!!! Can't believe you survived!!!! Thank god you're still here with us....
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@danielsummey41446 years ago I’ve encountered a rash of older gentlemen who get a kick out of operating without radio and causing near misses. Laughing the entire way listening to everyone else try to figure out wtf is up. 3
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@TimKreitzAdventures8 years ago NORDO is rarely a good practice, and this vid is an excellent example of why. 4
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@samaldridge52837 years ago thanks for the videos they are very helpful being a student pilot
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@stephencutts52988 years ago I remember my first near miss. I was in practice area in Mesa Az, did my clearing turns to left right, then about 20 seconds later about 30 feet above came a Cessna 172 head on. Good Vid Stay safe up there! 1
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@damaliamarsi20067 years ago You could have done nothing better. You had your head on a swivel and did the safest choice each time. I want to get my pilots license and watch these videos to learn what a book can't teach you. Good flying and good teamwork spotting the non transmitting plane. You made me feel safer about flying, so I would say good job. ... 4
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@LakeMurraySunsets5 years ago Wow, I ran into a few of those Juliet Alfas when I was flying. I had a Bonanza cut me off while turning onto short final at First Flight. He flew an unannounced straight in approach from the ocean side with me turning short final. He never saw me in a Cessna 150. It just proves, like my dad, an ATP with 32 years experience as an air traffic controller always said, "Not everyone who can afford an airplane should be flying one, and It's always a big airplane little sky." Years later after I became an Air Force air traffic controller, we were in a Navajo together over Dullas when a controller put us in a left turn and descended a 737, from our right, through our altitude before the 737 had us in sight. That's a BIG NO NO. The supervisor immediately came on and gave us a climbing right turn. When we rolled through wings level, we could see the passengers, with huge eyes wide open, in the little windows. My Dad as cool as a cat, calmly said, "Well, he just had a deal. We won't be hearing his voice again." That was it.
Rest in peace as the KISR1 Dept. out of Norfolk, VA Dad. We love you and miss you every day. ... 12
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@petewilson50943 years ago Under that situation I think your appreciation of the situation and action resulted in a satisfactory safe outcome. Iters may give a number of different views but they weren't in the seat, Good job!! 1
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@granskare7 years ago a navion, i think, is like an ercoupe but after googling, but both are low wing aircraft so good luck. How did you put the extra video on your screen? A nice video indeed :)

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