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The Woman King: How the Optics Impact Black Women (spoilers)

by Chrissie

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Published 24 Sep 2022

Intro 0:00 What I liked about The Woman King 5:05 Biracial male savior/love interest 9:32 The Woman King Impact 11:44 Masculine promo does not protect black women 16:37 Romanticizing black women in war 20:08 Warrior movies radicalize black women 27:36 White women living vicariously through black warriors 36:42 White women directed The Woman King 39:35 Masculine promo used to thwart black femininity 44:07 Warriors vs wives in The Woman King 45:48 Black women are both feminine & masculine 50:18 Various archetypes of black women 52:45 The “king” title for black women 1:01:46 Representation & optics 1:02:34 Dying on the hill of colorism 1:10:18 The Little Mermaid 1:15:08 Black Men Boycotting The Woman King 1:21:34 Join Patreon https://www.patreon.com/chrissiesway Become a YouTube Channel Member https://bit.ly/JoinChrissieYT Shop https://www.amazon.com/shop/chrissie Sign Up for Mailing List http://bit.ly/ChrissieMailingList Donate www.cash.app/$ChrissieYT https://www.paypal.me/divinedarkskin Visit Website https://chrissieonline.com/ #thewomanking #violadavis #johnboyega

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@ChrissiesWay2 years ago Intro
What I liked about The Woman King
Biracial male savior/love interest
The Woman King Impact
Masculine promo does not protect black women
Romanticizing black women in war
Warrior movies radicalize black women
White women living vicariously through black warriors
White women directed The Woman King
Masculine promo used to thwart black femininity
Warriors vs wives in The Woman King
Black women are both feminine & masculine
Various archetypes of black women
The king title for black women
Representation & optics
Dying on the hill of colorism
The Little Mermaid
Black Men Boycotting The Woman King
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@royaltaylor23312 years ago Humiliating black women is so normal, other people become offended. At us black women being offended. 318
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@greenbyrdd83082 years ago Chrissie is right. This kind of representation has damaging outcomes that continue to reverberate to this very day. The strong, dark skinned black woman . ...Expand 825
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@kitsontuli27132 years ago The thing about women king that kinda puts me off a bit is the reinforcement of the strong black woman trope. That does nothing but fortify the idea that . ...Expand 1376
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@Princess-ep5hi2 years ago Thank you for speaking on how the strong black woman archetype negatively affects us in real life. Two years ago, my mom took me to the hospital for id="hidden4" chest pains and the nurses and the doctor did not take me serious despite the fact that i was bent over in pain and i was crying. I was 24 years old an adult but i could not drive myself to the hospital so my mom took me. My mom had to speak up for them to finally do something. They had me waiting just to get a room. My mom had to ask them for pain killers as well. Thank god it turns out i was experiencing chest pains due to stress from my old job not a heart attack but if it was i could have died. Also im a young dark skin black woman and im very short and petite. Im an introvert and im quiet and yet my entire life i was treated like a man and anytime i did try to speak up i was aggressive and had an attitude. I was even mistreated at my old job by a white customer who said i was scary because i defended myself when she wrongfully accused me of being a thief. She also threatened to call the police on me. I know this may sound ridiculous but im scared of white women and i dont trust most of them. Im also scared of most men after i was sad and harassed multiple times. Im literally scared to go out by myself because im afraid of being mistreated. I have to ask my boyfriend to come out with me. I even had to get a remote job because i refuse to risk my life again working in the office. This is why the strong black woman archetype is dangerous. ...Expand 512
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@msdimples47072 years ago Thank you chrissie for defending black women homemakers and stay at home moms. Thank you for recognizing us and validating our work of raising kids and . ...Expand 618
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@charmaineespeut46272 years ago I thought i was the only one who thought halle looked a bit off in the trailer. She is beyond gorgeous and that trailer didn' t showcase that. Her hair . ...Expand 542
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@shenyae41432 years ago I wont be supporting anything that makes my image look masculine. I love being feminine. 165
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@farmhouseonthemountain2 years ago That you are a ' child free by choice' woman and can still see the agenda against traditional black motherhood speaks volumes to your integrity . ...Expand 253
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@gdesiree292 years ago I' m a light skin bw and when i first saw the trailer for the women king, i knew this wasn' t it. Im thinking to myself, " chrissie ain' t the whole thing was off to me.
wonder woman 2017, she' s a badass fighter but she' s still feminine, caring, funny and has a love interest, steve. She didn' t look all masculine and hard looking like these women in women king. ...Expand 415
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@MsTemptation2 years ago I agree with everything youve said.
what people dont get is that you cant compare white women roles to black women because white women are a id="hidden9"llowed to be versatile, thus no one depiction of her is taken as a generalized depiction of all white women.
so she can be strong, she can be soft and no one will automatically assume anything about her based on these attributes.
but (dark skinned)black women arent being given that same courtesy.
were often depicted as loud and troublesome or masculine women.
so any movie that reinforces this doesnt help our image.
we are not stronger than anyone else and we have feelings and can feel pain and remorse.
we have soft romantic sides that when watered shows our glow.
im not here to be anyones warrior woman, nor some ride or die chick.
i cry when im sad or hurt and im not going to allow anyone to abuse me mentally because theyre under the false impression that i can take it due to my being a dark skinned black woman. ...Expand 56
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@Tai.tv172 years ago You have truly opened my mind to the realities of promotion. I was looking at a makeup ad and only the darker shades had male models! 65
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@kekejensen17212 years ago Its funny how they have no issue finding non racially ambiguous dark skinned women but if it were any other show requiring black women aside from the strong black woman stereotype suddenly shes biracial acting as black. 104
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@Convinceyamama2 years ago My only rebuttal is the fact that halle went through the audition process and got the part fairly. I think you could argue that if an equally talented . ...Expand 362
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@noreehix57142 years ago I knew as soon as the trailer dropped that it made me feel uncomfortable about dark skinthat' s why i think it' s jmportant to have dark skin bw multi layered representation especially in fantasy. That' s why i have my fingers crossed for bp2. So farcharacter) has been a warrior, human activist, soft, feminine and a love interest. ...Expand 312
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@balance73502 years ago It' s no coincidence hollywood is releasing these types of films. The woman king, the colour purple and black panther (all female led cast) stay in your feminine energy ladies x. 288
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@TASconfidential2 years ago Youre always spot on! Never miss a beat!
keep dropping knowledge chrissy! 167
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@i-annablack52712 years ago I actually like the way they did halles makeup, its a no makeup look. Shes has on a little bit of nude sparkly eye shadow and a natural pink lip. I thi . ...Expand 180
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@natalie81052 years ago Glad you caught that chrissy. Viola davis is a phenomenal actress but she too thirsty for the roles that make her hard she may not know that shes subco . ...Expand 297
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@Lee193472 years ago The name of the woman king alone is giving me pure displeasure because its masculinising black women. A king is a male ruler and a queen is a female r . ...Expand 178
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@LearnAsYouGo.2 years ago I think bw dont mind seeing us play masculine roles because many bw dont think that they are/can be feminine. It starts young & is somehow drilled int . ...Expand 209
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@rfm85102 years ago What i hate most about woman king is viola davis has complained about these type roles. On the actors round table she complained about not getting love . ...Expand 143
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@BlackWomenExalted2 years ago Love your commentary!
it' s a game. They are not gonna put the image of a bw above a ww. Periodt.
it' s their society, we are just in it. 53
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@LearnAsYouGo.2 years ago I myself am conflicted about the role that angela bassett plays on 911 even though i love that show. Shes depicted as mainly masculine but they do also s . ...Expand 107
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@ZA-lf4rz2 years ago You always come through to remind the women who always seem to forget smh, great video! 164
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@bs15122 years ago That' s why i thought when i saw the trailer
this is perpetuating the idea that dark skinned black girls and woman are masculine, angry and abrasive. 17
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@ranilipton2 years ago Tbh i' m disappointed in viola davis. This woman was literally crying, screaming, throwing up about regretting playing a maid on the help. Yet, she . ...Expand 346
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@LearnAsYouGo.2 years ago My question is how would a movie help bw & bg learn how to defend themselves in 2022? Do they magically learn fighting maneuvers from watching? People say anything. 37
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@beianli46202 years ago Literally, when i saw the cast of the woman king, my first thought was " chrissie sure is gonna have a lot to say about this one" i' m really . ...Expand 66
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@AnimeSheX2 years ago Let' s keep it 100. Ww warriors are marketed as sexy first (costumes, fighting choreo, etc) then tough second. Their version of tough isand still wrapped in thewe live in. Ugh its so exhausting to have to fight to be a woman first. I mean what even is feminism. Do those mammies even know. Ain' t they just boys. ...Expand 126
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@Scaryaries2 years ago Also, why cant black women be portrayed in a normal settings? Why do black women specifically dsbw always have to be in movies that have something to d . ...Expand 14
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@yasminm13852 years ago Thank you for talking about this chrissie. I dm' d you about this very subject. You highlighted something extremely valid, i hadn' t even thought . ...Expand 18
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@stopthelightskinguilt.37752 years ago I noticed people who loved the movie and dont think its a problem are they same people who wont be impacted by the effects of it. 125
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@melaninj922 years ago Eh my personal opinion i think this bit of reach with halle playing the live action little mermaid with the casting choice. I mean i knew she was going . ...Expand 78
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@m.s91462 years ago You are a breath of fresh air. Very bad timing on the making and release of this film. You are 100% correct. Im light skinned and dont think only dar id="hidden29"k skinned women will suffer repercussions from this film. You can be 65% white dna and that one drop makes you a tough black woman. Sorry im not tough, i resent this film and am upset that once again my dark skinned sisters are having their femininity compromised. ...Expand 225
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@bekkah76182 years ago We have seen the strong black woman imagery from many years (it does more harm than good and gives the assumption that we are that all the time) in which . ...Expand 48
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@Gryn6512 years ago Chrissie you went in on this video. I love these type of videos. You really have a very analytical and perceptive mind. 54
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@amab18532 years ago Chrissie it was very eye opening to see who thewere for the film behind the scenes. 61
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@sweetpeaj19522 years ago I' m a little annoyed seeing comments on here talking about the bw in the movie were shown to be feminine. It was balanced. Was that displayed in the . ...Expand 40
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@professionalrealtor49572 years ago Wow great point. Smdh i needed this. Trying to pushback against feminine black women. 25
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@beeznhoney43232 years ago I have not yet seen the film yet. I am very torn on the bad timing of this movie. I do not like theof black women. However, this movie is based on real history. Viola produced the movie to bring their story to life. To me, it proves that black men have never really protected bwomen - ever. ...Expand 14
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@alexandrahendrick43522 years ago I think disney needs to do the real work and come up with at least 5 disney movies/ cartoons with black princesses. Amazing stories that anyone can relate to. 105
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@EK-iz7es2 years ago Once you see how black woman are depicted in the media it will literally disgust you, chrissie i agree its better to have no representation in the media i . ...Expand 45
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@Ciara4342 years ago In regards to the little mermaid' s aesthetic, i believe the dark muted colors are a theme of most of the live-action remakes. In the live-action lion i' m curious on how she will look once she' s on land. ...Expand 49
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@dearbrave41832 years ago African women weren' t warriors, the norm was for african men to be warriors. There was only one tribe in benin of female warriors who protected the from the history i know, the male tribe leaders in west africa were generally known for selling the slaves, so it would make sense that if anyone sold them in benin would be the tribe leaders just like in nigerian.
that being said, african female warriors with wakanda and woman king are being pushed as the norm for whatever reasons and it' s not true.
also why isn' it called the woman queen?. ...Expand 66
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@phillipsmith67042 years ago When you' re right, you' re right. Balance and representation in all things. 10
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@dreamlover55692 years ago I see commenters critiquing viola davis' s choice in roles. However, the roles that showcase a wide range of emotions are the roles that win awards. . ...Expand 86
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@melanin_mami20082 years ago I literally love watching ur channel. Thank you for always speaking the truth! 28
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@starwoodanime15322 years ago I' m fine with black women being warriors and tough girls but i want them to have a soft tender side. Show that they are human and have and flaws just like people. The problem with films like the women king is that they dehumanize black women. If they were written well i wouldn' t have a problem with films like these. ...Expand 87
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@tonyamoore99622 years ago I can' t wait to check out your commentary on this topic chrissie! You are right on time. 4
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@MS.KibetF2 years ago Never watched wakanda, have nit and shall nit watch woman king! 25
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@Jenny-fl5cn2 years ago Why should it be called queen instead of woman king?
in most african tribe, the word for a queen regent translates as " woman king" for im summary, unlike the english language that uses the same word for the female regent and the female consort of a male regent, it is not so in some other societies. " ugo eze" and " eze nwaanyi" are not the same. ...Expand 21
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@beautifuleva34702 years ago I have not watched woman king yet so i can' t say much about it. And i can' t wait to see the little mermaid in 2023! 51
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@StillaRoseYoga2 years ago Thank you! We understand woman king happened historically, however the queen in her role is just as important in maintaining the children/king and hom . ...Expand 31
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@ceeceelove23872 years ago I' m not supporting anything that makes dsbw look masculine! Young dsb girls are watching and seeing women who look like them mostly painted as masculine . ...Expand 41
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@eatlive84872 years ago Love how you break down the points and are always spot on. You always say it as it is. My question though is what can we collectively as dark skinned women . ...Expand 9
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@frenchgirl58782 years ago I saw white people and black people say they would rather see a white ariel and a black ursula. 8
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@viewer0ne2 years ago Not to mention the new bonnet emojis apple is coming out with.
i dont know if its women of all colors being shown in the bonnet, but the dark id="hidden43"skinned blk woman emoji with a bonnet on her head was the one specifically being shown all over the news. ...Expand 43
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@tolena19802 years ago Brandy played cinderella and she is dark brown and in the movie the princess in the frog, the character was dark brown. But other than that, i definitely . ...Expand 23
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@emerald_city36812 years ago That wife in the movie was gorgeous! This how i want to be taken care of. Lol. 25
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@drock97752 years ago - Yes. East Asian and Southeast Asian women have long histories of being warriors and engaging in combat going back many centuries and up to and including WWII, the Korean and Vietnam conflicts. Historically factual and the numerous movies depicting them (both factual accounts and fictional stories) has done nothing to damage or diminish their reputations and stereotypes of being the most feminine women. At ALL! .. ...Expand 15
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@tiffany292 years ago I agree what you' re saying, but i do think that viola come off as masculine and strong which is the reason why they always put her in these roles, just about every movie or tv show she' s that way. 14
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@whatsonhermindblog1232 years ago I haven' t watched the movie nor will i watch the little mermaid. I dont watch any new movies and i try to be more selective of the movies i watch. . ...Expand 7
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@NaturesWorld742 years ago Glad you' re back chrissie hope you feel better soon hun. 4
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@christinemagdalene2 years ago Excellent analysis, as always! Thank you for sharing your valuable insight with us. 14
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@PrincessYonna12 years ago Ppl keep convincing me to watch it but i know this movie harms the image of dark skin bw and thats why i refuse. 6
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@JeanieNoir2 years ago They really do think that we dont feel pain and it sickens me, time to start exposing our mistreatment and stop laying down about it! I was just i id="hidden48"n the er for food poisoning, from a mcdonalds, amp; had stopped eating at fast food restaurants months earlier and caved this time) smh, this is when i found very thin wire fibers in a burger, the doctors agreed in the lab, that i had swallowed a foreign object during lab scanning. Then afterwards, came into my room 2 hours later, and said, well its all in my head and i should go home & sleep it offmoments later a nurse came in & i cried to her about how it felt like i wanted to pull out my intestines because of the pain, and she said honey the doctor already evaluated you and didnt find anything, theres nothing that so&so & i can do. Amp; left the room. To make a long story short, i went to two other hospitals, and gathered enough evidence for my lawsuit. Yall please dont ever let anyone else tell you how you feel within your own body, they are trying to end us, stay self vigilant!. ...Expand 14
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@lat73242 years ago Tisha campbell a non-biracial black woman was the complexion i thought of when someone said lightskin but now i realize there are not that many tisha campbells w . ...Expand 21
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@NIO6232 years ago Black/ african people are. We have the good and the bad. Victors and victims. If the vikings and spartans can tell their stories, the dahomey story should be told as well. 11
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@ccb60132 years ago I' ve tried to hold conversations with a few bw and, even in the bwe space, they just do not want to accept the issue with the representation that comes yet anotherblack woman warrior movie. I mean the masculinity is in the name, isn' t it? " the woman king"
a lot of us are just hard-headed when it comes to learning how to not let ourselves get played. ...Expand 51
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@QuetzalcoatlTK2 years ago I think its fairly obvious if halle were dark skin she wouldnt have been picked. However maybe this could be a gateway for more inclusion because her getting that role was already a step in the right direction. 46
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@ttmoore87502 years ago Never missed a beat! Thank you chrissie, ive seen the impact in the family home too. You havent made anything up just highlighted what they are avoiding. Thank you. 14
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@kateasheley74042 years ago The original dahomey warriors wore beaded tops, skirts and cute headbands so why do they look so masculine in the movie? I don' t get it, if you' re . ...Expand 14
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@Overit.com85872 years ago Christie, i just turned this in and havent listened to it all. Im only 2 minutes in. However i will tell you, im not going to see it. I decided as so id="hidden55"on as i saw the trailer. We dont need them showing that we are just tough and ready to fight. I know my history thanks to my uncles. So they can miss me with showing us likei will know will be about your video. I like be soft and feminine. I do know how to fight whenit
thank you. ...Expand 3
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@digimonalvatrax27382 years ago As an african darkskin woman, i don' t like this movie. Offensive. 11
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@Beccathree2 years ago Tbh i didnt realize this was a history piece; i loved the movie because i love seeing bw being badass in movies. 30
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@ysishuba94957 months ago I remember rolling my eyes when you said halle doesn' t look glam, but fast-forward to today and you were right. She didn' t have a single ball gown . ...Expand 2
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@lindalessie2 years ago @chrissie i enjoyed your perspective on this and i appreciate the balance you brought to the topic. 6
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@Convinceyamama2 years ago Hate to be that girl (and i love your channel) but as someone on the spectrum, please dont use the word retarded when there are so many other words you can use to get your point across. Its a offensive and unnecessary. 15
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@gypie882 years ago Love the commentary chrissie!
the biracial love interest was fine, but i just could not stop looking at the king, now he was fine!
i loved the wives as well. 8
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@rihannahaiti55702 years ago This will be interesting, but woman king is in africa, which would mean darker skin. I doubt there were many lighter shades. 7
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@oweber21602 years ago Chrissie said i saw it on bootleg i love the rawness of this channel.
fun fact: they were shield-maidens that vikings and other scandinavians learn . ...Expand 34
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@keelhe8932 years ago Chrissie, imo you gave a balanced critique of this film. Im glad you actually watched it because it was a beautiful work of cinematic art.
its tru imo i walked away appreciating the vulnerability and humanity of these women. It actually showed that despite the warrior physique they found themselves not being strong at all. Each character was flawed which made it relatable & interesting. I felt for the people who watched the film that it is a conversation piece. It truly depicted the dilemma of the bw. She desires femininity but is forced to be masculine because of her circumstances and suffers for it but somehow overcomes and finds success and femininity.
each character had depth and nuance that i didnt see depicted about bw before on the big screen which i appreciated because that shows these actresses talent when they play complex roles.
to add, it did display various kinds of bw and different interactions from sisterhood, jealousy to enemies etc. Or indifference
for me this movie was awesome but i can understand that maybe the timing wasnt the best and we want more bw in beauty roles and depicted in positive feminine characters to change the narrative. I stand in agreement with that but still felt this movie was great and want the run of the meal shero film. ...Expand 52
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@yasminm13852 years ago Completely agree about the little mermaid! The showed skinlike seriously, there was no makeup for that? Or filters? And i agree, is intentional. They go out of their way to downplay our beauty. 16
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@thewordsmith54402 years ago How did you get the bootleg? They still have bootleg dvds? 1
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@Luxebarbie2 years ago I always say i come from dancers not warriors lol. Theres never any production on bw contribution to the arts. 26
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@thehamsterarmy23802 years ago I noticed people are talking about halle isn' t light. She is light. When we' re talking about actual black women, not the biracials, not the quarter blacks. Actually at least 3/4 black aka black, she is light skinned. ...Expand 35
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@catwoman76942 years ago I think what made it eye opening to me was a lot of the movie audience was older blk women. Out of the 60-65% of blk women who went to see the woman king . ...Expand 54
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@42tribes2 years ago The boycotts aren' t just about them selling slaves. Dahomey did mass killings of slaves the part in the movie where they fought slavery was mostly fictionalized. 6
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@hoos30142 years ago Halle bailey is lightskinned? She looks brown to me. 8
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@alexandrahendrick43522 years ago We need a black hallmark movie channel. 14
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@sponsponm12 years ago This movie should be boycotted firstly its historically inaccurate. The dahomey were not fighting to stop slavery. They were fighting to reinforce it, the dahomey amazons werent only made up of female soldiers out of the 120 soldiers half were women. And they didnt engage in hand to hand combat with men lol. They had guns, canons and artillary given to them by their european counterparts. Thats how they were able to conquer neighbouring tribes
this movie was directed by white feminists what agenda do you think they were trying promote?. ...Expand 9
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@bitokay1472 years ago So glad we are speaking about how africans sold their own people ( til this day sex workers in africa will share this fyi ) which is how we got to america . ...Expand 4
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@olabmar4982 years ago I completely agree with your opinion. I am very pro eradicate the sjw, masculine image of black women. But this film was something else. Even though the i also think that eventually, black women playing soft feminine roles will come, but black movies just have to break in first through high quality- cinematic, aspirational highly supported by black audiences, prideful movies such as black panther and woman king. But here, black people are ruling out this movie without realizing that it could be a build up to what we really want in the near future. And hollywood will see that we dont support our own movies and make it harder for the next potential big movies to be made, and thats if they will ever be made. Just something to think about. ...Expand 11
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@sheeshneesh2 years ago I aint never seen no white woman as a leader in a war film. 9

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